This was transcribed from Stacy Harp's August 3, 2006 interview with RenewAmerica's own Guy Adams.   My commentary is in RED.  For earlier post regarding this issue see  www.joebrummer.com

STACY:  Gay activists are upset because when they listen to our podcast you made the comment that there is a new trend with gays having sex with infants...in Chicago....boy! That just blew up and uh, people are outraged about that and uh, I’ve been accused of allowing you a platform to spew hatred and um and, and incite violence towards people, and uh I just wanted to make sure that ..uh ...well. (laughs) I wanted to say first of all that’s not true, were not doing that were not incited hatred

Joe's commentary:  By making false claims that gays are after infant children, you most certainly are inciting violence against them.   This is more of the Call to Arms, Mob Mentality that feeds the climate of violence against gays.   Your claims have been a clear call to others to "stop the homos".  Those gays are destroying marriage, after your children, spreading disease.    All the same claims made by the Nazi's about the Jews.  You will have a hard time making anyone believe you are not inciting violence when your claims about gays match the Nazi film The Eternal Jew.   

GUY ADAMS:  That’s right

STACY: or violence towards anybody. The whole point of our show is to expose the gay agenda and also...um..to offer hope to people, which is actually what we will be talking about in the second half of this program that will air right after this.  But I did..one of my  um...um...mistakes...I guess, if you wanna call it that was that I didn’t actually ask you for the resource or your evidence for making that claim. Um and the reason why...why I didn’t is because I didn’t is because I’ve done so much research on pedophilia that I understand the trends but I didn’t know specifically what you were talking about in Chicago, so I wanted to give you the floor and have you answer that question.  How do you know about that.

Joe's commentary:   Stacy states here that she has researched pedophilia and knows the trends.  Stacy is also a Family and Marriage therapist with a Masters Degree.   If she really did study the research she would already know their is NO TREND of gays having sex with infants in Chicago.   She has flat out lied folks and a copy of this transcript will be going to the licensing authorities in her State.

GUY ADAMS: Sure...uh well a number of ways, umm.  One of the ladies we were with on the first day, her daughter is a lesbian and, and found information out from that, I am trying to remember it. [Guy can't remember it because It never really happen, did it?] We talked to a number of homosexuals in the area [and the first thing they said was we sleep with infants??? come on now, who are we kidding. Where is your sense of reality?  No gay person said to you  "yeah I have sex with infants, GET REAL!] and ex-homosexuals [and there is a reliable source of info on gays, seeing as though they have a history of lying about homosexuality] as well and um there are plenty of ex-homosexuals. But I think that some of these people have kind of taken it out of context. [it is not possible that we could have taken the original statement out of contect.  Just to be positive that we didn't do any such thing GUy, Here is your words, in context. Maybe this will refresh your memory:

"The newest thing in Chicago, it's becoming a trend, and you're gonna find this hard to believe...sex with infants,"

GUY ADAMS continues: They say their outraged but they should be outraged. I mean pedophilia is a terrible crime and I would also say that Heterosexuals practice pedophilia too, I mean anyone whose been watching Bill O’Reilly over the last year knows that ..that its not an exclusively gay thing. But the guy that claimed, this activist that claimed that I hit a new low, you know I find that very interesting because while he is accusing me of inciting hate and, and I absolutely do not, as someone who has read my article you know I don’t hate gays and I frequently say that I do not advocate any violence done against them, period. But it is interesting that he would claim that I have reached a new all time low if when you just look at homosexual behavior, I mean fisting, rimming..uh is not basically a heterosexual thing, it’s a homosexual thing and those are terrible sex acts, uh gays going into the back of gay bars for anonymous sex and bath houses, that’s primarily a homosexual thing so for an activist to claim that I’ve hit a new all time low, I think that pretty disingenuous.

Joe's commentary: Trying to insinuate that either Wayne or I is lower than you just because we are gay is wrong and immoral.  You are no better than anyone.   Adding to that Fisting and Rimming are well enjoyed by heterosexuals.  A short google search will cure you of your lack of knowledge.   I would also ask you to do your homework and you will see the most studies show gays are no more wild and crazy than any college age frat boy who can't even remember who he banged last night.

STACY: Now, can I ask you a question by, by even saying these things are you trying to dehumanize the entire gay community by saying these things, cause that’s what there saying.

Joe's commentary: How about I answer that for you Stacy.   DUH!   Saying gays all have wild sex in the streets, have sex with infants, have sex withg animals, of course that is dehumanizing.  You make us sound like a bunch of animals.  Any gay person listening felt a sense of pain and hurt as some radio interview inaccurately and violently depicts our lives like animals.   YES, that is very dehumanizing.  

GUY ADAMS: Well apparently they didn’t listen closely enough to the first interview or they haven’t read my articles. I believe I said that we should not strip away their dignity um and by dignity I mean their precious in the site of god for being his creatures. God did not create them gay, but he did create them as humans and Psalms 139 says that um...that god is responsible for bring them into this world.  The fact that as a result of social or emotional circumstances they chose homosexual behavior, well the behavior itself is what god calls an abomination not the individual.  I, I see that with criminals too.  I talked to many criminals who are murderers or rapists and you could still see the divine spark in them, yeah they did some really egregious behaviors but god still loves them and that might be hard for some people to understand but for me no, I um don’t hate the gay at all, I am not trying to dehumanize them at all.

Joe's commentary:  Oh Mr. Adams, we heard the interview, some of us many times.   We had to listen a few times to be sure we were really hearing such utter lies.   Be not fooled, there is not one medical, mental health or even EX-GAY group who agrees with your claim that gays chose to be gay.  Not even your idol Stephen Bennett agrees with this claim.   How do you expect we are to believe you are an expert when you disagree with the people you worship.   Get your facts straight before speaking.

I will add to that, it is dehumanizing to compare the love and the life I have built with partner of many years to rapists and murderers.

STACY: Okay, you made one other comment, you made one other comment that we should address and that is that you, you said that uh...that, that, that gays haven’t um, well actually they say GLBT people, actually we were addressing all that but you said that gays haven’t  made any contribution to society except AIDS and pornography um...

GUY ADAMS:  Well that isn’t exactly what I said. Umm What I said was um I think they’ve taken that out of context too, I believe I..I..I asked you, ya,you said something devil’s advocate to the effect of are you saying, are you just painting this the bad side or the dark side of homosexuals which I replied something to the effect of, well what’s the good side, I mean, so I am asking these people what is the good side of homosexuality when you’ve got 30% of gay men having HIV virus, Dr. Diggs says that going to be 50% within a short while, what good about that, what good about having anonymous sex in bath houses and gay bars. Uh you got your great musicians who are gay like Elton John and certainly tremendous contributions, but never the less the flip side of guys like Elton John is his homosexuality. God say that is clearly wrong and up until recently, all of America said it was wrong.  Most of America still says its wrong, but got some gutless politicians who are saying like in Texas that sodomy is not illegal, there spineless in my opinion. (sirens)  You can probably here the ambulance going by...

Joe's commentary: Yes, it is exactly what you said.   Why don't you go back and listen for yourself.   It is what you said.   You are also citing Dr. John Diggs, a member of a debunked research group the Southern Poverty Law Center (the leader in hate group watching) has named a hate group.   The group Dr. Diggs belongs to has called for the execution of gays since 1983.    The evidence of this is ample.  DO you still want to claim you are not inciting violence?

STACY: Yeah (laughs), I hear that, well you know I am glad you’ve uh taken a couple minutes to clarify your points and I would also like to point out that uh you can still listen to the first part of the interview, I still have it online, I don’t plan on taking it down and um I think you also described um some of the events that took place at the Gay Games um in particular like um the men going through the maze and all that and none of the that was debunked by anybody in the gay community.

Joe's commentary:  Lets get this straight.  It isn't true for all gay and lesbians Americans.  If some small percentage of gays was out having an orgy, it is not a reflection of all gays in America.   The US Census data can prove this to be true.

GUY ADAMS: Well no because they know its true and what they like to do is paint themselves as victims, victims in need of special civil rights and that’s wrong. They try to say we’re using hate speech, that we’re inciting violence and, and Renew America and Myself have clearly and repeatedly stated that we don’t want violence or discrimination in many areas done against them, that they have an inherent dignity as (inaudible) and we don’t hate them, but you won’t hear them say that, there just going to pick and choose and twist and that’s wrong. We, I think we have the moral high ground and we just tell it like it is...uh, we do our best, sometimes we makes some mistakes umm. I probably should have said that heterosexuals engage in pedophilia as well but never the less that doesn’t take away from the fact of the awful nature of what their doing.

STACY:  Well. I’m pretty confident that you coming on here and explaining yourself probably won’t matter to anybody who is opposing to you anyway, but for those of you who do want to hear the ........

Joe's commentary:  And Stacy, you would be wrong.  it did matter.   It made this situation worse and we, the gay community want an apology.